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tnpir4001 June 13th, 2011 04:12 AM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
@evil_genius: it was in Chellik's office in Specter as well :) Last time it was implied to be an afterthought, a gold-plated proof-of-concept model that no one ever made anything of. This time, it's mostly there as a subtle jab at Star Trek XI (notice Garr's line there is "I have to know my enemy").

I guess you could say it's there for the same reason Riker had a pewter model of the 1701-A in his TNG quarters, with warp engines that were turned the wrong way: because we can. :)

evil_genius_180 June 13th, 2011 08:43 AM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
Yeah, I figured that "concept that was never made" was going to be the explanation, I just thought I'd ask. As for the Constitution-class with the nacelles turned 90 degrees, you can easily just say that's a class variant. But, as many people have whined about since it was revealed, there's nothing like the JJverse Enterprise anywhere in Starfleet in the "prime" universe. (AKA, the real Trek universe)

tnpir4001 June 13th, 2011 10:12 AM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
@evil_genius: remember that Retribution so far has taken place in an "alternate" timeline (the same as the Prime one but with some subtle differences). At the end of the movie the Prime timeline will be restored. At that point, we'll get another glimpse in Prentice's quarters, at which point this gold Abrams NCC-1701 will change to the TOS-style NCC-1701.

:)

tnpir4001 June 13th, 2011 01:59 PM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
The question now is, where to from here? Obviously Reyf is going to tell all very soon, the question is how to get there from here.

gmd3d June 13th, 2011 02:17 PM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
I have missed the last updates . I have a look asap.

tnpir4001 June 13th, 2011 03:45 PM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
@Taranis: I think you'll really like the latest clip, it went through quite a bit of preproductive development (not to mention corny ideas over at SFM). Braiyon Garr is particularly ominous here, and as has been said, there's what I think is a nice little plot twist at the end. :)

evil_genius_180 June 13th, 2011 07:39 PM

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Something has been bugging me that might be a revelation of sorts. Anybody who doesn't want to read what might or might not be a startling revelation, don't read this:

Spoiler
I'm beginning to wonder if Garr is the real villain in all of this or if it's Reyf.

tnpir4001 June 18th, 2011 06:37 PM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
Next piece is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPhUPyyynF4

tnpir4001 June 20th, 2011 04:04 AM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
Small clips are down, new long clip is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5CYG_q0QJ0

tnpir4001 June 20th, 2011 09:07 AM

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I'm kind of stuck on the next scene. I've got it written, but no matter how many rewrites I go through, I still can't get it to such a point that I'm happy with it. Have a look at the writeup, and see what you think. Let me know if you have any suggestions!

tnpir4001 June 20th, 2011 08:38 PM

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Here's a revised version that feels like it gets closer to what it should be. Still a little long, I think, but maybe it works. Give it a onceover and see what you think!

gmd3d June 21st, 2011 01:45 AM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
Finally got the chance to view it .. some nice twists and turns ....

evil_genius_180 June 21st, 2011 08:31 AM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
I'll have to find an hour and a half to watch it later and see how it's going so far. I was just going to be lazy and watch the newest scene, but the vid is gone (I guess I waited too long. ;)) Oh well, it will be good to see the progress to date all together anyway. :) I should be able to find some time for that tonight.

tnpir4001 June 21st, 2011 02:49 PM

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@evil_genius: gotta be quick with me :) A lot of times what happens is I'll post an individual scene, but then make a change or add a transition shot when it goes in with the rest of the movie, and when that happens usually everything comes down and a new long clip goes up. This was one of those cases :)

tnpir4001 June 24th, 2011 11:27 PM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
Next one's up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5IAeYAqAR8

tnpir4001 June 25th, 2011 07:59 PM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
Work on Scene 32 started today--the visuals are going fine, but I seem to be stuck on the question of BGM. With that in mind, I've put together a few music tests comprising the first part of the scene (all that I have completed as of the moment). These are some of the most fitting pieces of music I have in my collection, but if after seeing this anyone else has a better idea I'm listening.

The selections I've chosen to test are:
Star Trek Retribution - Scene 32 Music Test: "24 Main Title"
Star Trek Retribution - Scene 32 Music Test: "Blue (Da Ba Dee) Karaoke Mix"
Star Trek Retribution - Scene 32 Music Test: "Blue Da Ba Dee (Radio Edit)"
Star Trek Retribution - Scene 32 Music Test: "Cosmic Castaway"
Star Trek Retribution - Scene 32 Music Test: "Hey Sandy"
Star Trek Retribution - Scene 32 Music Test: "Turn, Turn, Turn"
Star Trek Retribution - Scene 32 Music Test: "The Leveller"

tnpir4001 June 27th, 2011 09:22 PM

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Alright, final decision's been made, we're going with "Blue (Da Ba Dee)." The scene is done now, see it in its entirety: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7c1omn8rMU

I'm especially proud of the shots of the Romulan fleet, those shots are by far on a grander scale than anything I've ever attempted before. So much so that I actually had to do the ships in three "rows," if you will, which are superimposed over each other to get the combined effect in that first shot: 1st row is the warbirds and the Kerchans; 2nd row is more of same, but in a different configuration; and 3rd row is what I call the "cameo" row, with everything from 2003 Cylon Base Stars to Nebulon-B frigates to Goa'uld Ha'Taks.

(Even though it's barely visible, this row is my favorite!)

tnpir4001 June 29th, 2011 05:19 PM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
New version of Scene 32 is up, this one is 32B with "Suicide Mission" (from Mass Effect 2) as the BGM, along with some updated visuals of the Romulan fleet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSCR1w19S8E

tnpir4001 July 3rd, 2011 10:49 PM

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Next piece is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhSu8X4R0I4

I'm particularly proud of how this one came out.

evil_genius_180 July 4th, 2011 10:25 PM

Re: Star Trek: Retribution
 
Really nicely done. I like the way this is coming together. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all plays out and what's in the mysterious cargo hold. :)

BTW, I love the gold plated NSEA Protector model in Ronston's cabin.


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