*** Log file opened: 06/04/2002 04:38:53 PM [22:56] Ok... what writers do we have here? [22:56] I'm a writer [22:56] 1 [22:57] I also come up with thumbnail designs...that work with stories. [22:58] Ok... what I am after is writers that can develop 5 main characters. There will be a contest thread for that. [22:58] I have my 3 basic fleet designes :) [22:59] I am also looking for a ship designer to create the flag ship: The Orion. [22:59] I got a big ship all designed and built! [22:59] what class? [22:59] Is that separate from helping with the overall plot? [22:59] The ship needs specs on it and such. [22:59] what about other ships? [22:59] There'll be a contest thread for it too. [22:59] Cruiser, super cruiser? [22:59] The ship design is up to the designer of it. [23:00] ok.. what kind of time frame for the series/show? [23:00] near future, far future? [23:00] I don't quite understand your thinking here. YOu have no idea what kind of story or ship or whatever, but you know how many character and the ship's name already? [23:00] Up to the writers and designers to place their materieal in whatever time frame. [23:01] Brutus, I already have stuff in mind. [23:01] thats gonna make desigining tricky [23:01] Gimme a chance to get to that, so please hold off all questions. [23:01] Well help us out here. I can write for any time period, and I can come up with anything, but I'd rather come up with what you want. [23:02] These contests are to see who can do what in creativity. However, *if* a contestant wins, it does *not* mean the winning material wil be used. [23:02] Are the contest entries secret? [23:03] What it means is is that the winning people will be invited to develop the Orion stuff. [23:03] Because they show they can be creative, etc in a manner that I want. [23:03] So you will be choosing ? Or will it be voted on ? [23:03] I will be placing the contestance entries into the Project: Orion forum (anyone see that?) [23:04] I'll be choosing. [23:04] newp [23:04] More than one entry? [23:04] no new forums here [23:04] This isn't a typical contest type thing. It's a project aimed to be a produtcion on TV or movie. [23:05] Arrghman doesnt see it either [23:05] Se... Kai is a Council member, and he can't see the Project: Orion forum. So that's how secret it is :) [23:05] I know Ed has a ship that I am very interested in. [23:06] Thor looks proud [23:06] Hehe [23:06] hey, no fair, he has a headstart :p [23:06] I also know of one writer that has done stuff I am interested in. [23:06] I have about 80 or so ship designs that I can submit :) [23:06] I made it ages ago. Everyone's seen it I should think... [23:06] What kind of assurances do we have that it won't end up like that Romulan movie? [23:06] HOWEVER, that doesn't get them automatic entries onto the team :o) [23:06] ;) [23:07] Kai-Bach reviews his files... yup [23:07] Assurances? The main one: I'm in charge of this, and as I said repeatedly: This is for the serious only, because I am taking it very seriously. [23:07] got about 500mb of unsed stuff here.. hmmm... [23:08] Through cetain ... dealings I've had lately with people from the Hollywood types, this is a very viable escapade. [23:08] Arrghman blinks [23:08] i see..... [23:09] Better slap a whole bunch of copyrights all over it then ;) [23:09] This is embaressing [23:09] Ed, bingo. [23:09] but I was actually driving while this chat room was joined by my computer [23:09] :-D [23:09] hence the secrecy [23:09] But no copyrights until we have what we're after to start. Hence the total secrecy of the forum where even the Council can't see it. [23:10] So the entries will be posted on the forum...and we can look at it? [23:10] The talent at 3DG is watched more than you may believe. [23:10] tho I don't think I'll be entering... I hate designing on a blind format... [23:10] Only the contestance will be able to view each others. No one else. [23:11] Kai, you enter what you have now and add to it. It's not a blind format. [23:11] Do you want outlines, or fullblown dialog or paragraph descriptions or...? [23:11] Greatly detailed outlines for the characters. [23:11] Character before story? [23:11] Ships I was functionality of them. [23:11] it is.. no idea if you wnat at all.. cruisers, fighters etc, no tie period... [23:11] -tie +time [23:12] No specific time period is required for the ship. Given it's space, obviously it's future to us in real life *L* [23:12] The time period would ideally be created later [23:12] after you get a general working idea going [23:12] Should it be earth or do you want anything? [23:12] Right. [23:13] if ever, for that matter [23:13] tho it would help to know if it's near future etc [23:13] Warrior, what do you mean functionalitly ? If we have no idea what type of SciFi universe they will be fore, ( warp, hyperdrive, stuffs like that ) how can we set up stats for the ships... [23:13] Anything. A colony, alines, whatever. [23:13] i think the point is that warrior wants to keep this open ended [23:13] to foster more creativity [23:13] Yeah, but....earthlings, or aliens? [23:13] for all I know... I could enter the Nexus [23:13] Kai, that is up to you. That's the whole point: To see what you can come up with. [23:13] Why not enter the Nexus? [23:14] well if you want a victorian wooden steam powered starship.... [23:14] Why not? [23:14] bye, Nimmy [23:14] Wow. [23:14] wooden steam starship [23:14] shes my baby Dauntless [23:15] That's so cool :-D [23:15] been working on her for over a year [23:15] chrono1 [warrior@d22.as0.crtn.oh.voyager.net] has joined #3DGladiators [23:15] If the elements on it are well thought out, if the ship functions in a realistic manner, then it's design doesn't matter too much. [23:15] I mean... I could see a fantastic looking ship, but it doesn't function realistically, so that ship is useless. [23:15] d'oh [23:15] Okay, but my question here is that of characters before story....is that right? [23:15] ah now thats something I can work with [23:16] But a rag tag piece of junk looking ship could be a great functioning ship *if it's well thought out*. [23:16] Sorry I'm late got to modeling and forgot the time [23:17] I'll put this in the Contest forums: Place your characters with back history, and place them in your "current story" setting in their development. [23:17] WarriorDL wonders if that made sense [23:17] not really, but that's okay [23:17] TheSpud [~warrior@public1-stok3-5-cust3.manc.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #3DGladiators [23:17] Hehe [23:17] Holy Cremola, full huh? [23:18] Oh....hi all :) [23:18] Can I enter multiple stories? They may share concepts but have very different contexts. [23:18] heya spud! [23:18] TheSpud waves at Argy [23:18] Arrghman waves back [23:18] Did I miss the start of the meeting?? [23:18] Ok... I want you to understand what I meant, so tell me what didn't make sense so I can try to explain it better. [23:19] Brutus, yes. That'd show a great variety. [23:19] spud so did i [23:19] I think someone is saving the chat transcript... I hope *L* [23:19] Me too LOL. [23:19] I am [23:19] me too :p [23:19] Woohoo [23:19] trillian does it by default :p [23:19] Yep, I am too :-D [23:19] All right, now I can of course go in depth on anything, but if I have like 10 story ideas...I may only flesh out a couple...would that hurt me? [23:20] Kai-Bach pulls out the Horseshoe and Claymore cruisers... hmmm [23:20] So does pirch :) [23:20] You entered just before we started, right Lee? [23:20] and the Silica ...ah no... thats not for this [23:20] the first thing i saw was you saying "5 minutes and counting" [23:20] Brutus, nope. Not hurt at all. This is to unleash your creativity. [23:20] Lee, that's perfect timing then :) [23:21] damn.. gonna haveto do something from scratch for this [23:21] Now... I know Ed mentioned something about fighters or something like that over ICQ yesterday? [23:21] Does this project have a Design Document? [23:21] all my good stuff is tied up for projects I hope to sell myself [23:21] Will you ask for clarifications on a story idea if you like it, but not enough to pick as winner? I mean, ask me to fix it up before the final decision? [23:21] Or is it a general "let's see where it goes" deal? [23:22] Brutus, I will be popping in and commenting on what I think needs touching up, yes. [23:22] How long will we have to do all of this ? [23:22] Okay, nice. When are the entries due? [23:22] Can somebody update chono so I don't have to repeat? *L* [23:22] Before the Contest closes that is.. [23:23] Lets just post the Log once we are done on the forums :) [23:23] Good question. [23:23] So this 'project' doesn't have a D.D. [23:23] no [23:23] uh uh chrono... just get creative lol [23:23] it does not!!! [23:24] Most likely what I'll do is get those participating in, and have the initial stuff posted by them, then determine the closing date after I see where all of them are as far as progress. [23:24] What I mean is, is this gonna be a few weeks or a few months ? [23:24] Warrior, I have some "pet" stories that I would not use for anything trivial. I would use them for a tv show or movie. If this does NOT become a tv show or movie, what happens to my writing? [23:24] Ryo, probably last a couple of months. [23:25] K.. thank god :) I have exams this month [23:25] The writing is yours. [23:25] BSG_RECON [~warrior@24.206.21.190] has joined #3DGladiators [23:25] Until the copywrite comes into play where it's ut under the Project: Orion header. [23:25] So, if I were to win, I wouldn [23:25] Otherwise, the same legal issues that are normally there are in place: The creator holds the rights. [23:25] 't be surprised to find it become a short internet film? :) [23:25] no DD no project waste of general time [23:26] BYE [23:26] chrono1 [warrior@d22.as0.crtn.oh.voyager.net] has quit IRC (Quit (Leaving)) [23:26] LOL [23:26] *L* Nice to see an open mind eh? ;) [23:26] Hello [23:26] No loss. [23:26] Hey, Recon! [23:26] What would one expect from Chrono [23:26] hi everyone [23:26] Hey BSG Recon :) [23:26] Hi Recon! [23:26] what is a DD? [23:27] I'm not sure if I'm coming in either... but thats just cos I prefer to work to general specs... not because I don't have faith in the idea [23:27] Did anyone explain to chrono in detail, or was it just the "get creative" comment? *L* [23:27] So if I were lucky enough to win, I would not be surprise to see this become an internet film? [23:27] well.. thats all we have really Warrior [23:27] DD = Design Document? [23:27] It'll never be an internet film. [23:27] err no ? [23:27] ah. thanks. I knew that. :) [23:28] Good. :) [23:28] Will it eventually be live action? [23:28] One question that you've probably already addressed, is there an overall story 'concept' ? [23:28] DD= general idea, eg what the ship is, the mission etc, what it's expected to do and so on [23:28] Thats the plan: A live action show or movie. [23:29] The DD will take place *agter* the team is in place. Then I'll lay the wood down on them *evil grin* [23:29] Cool. Will you pitch the idea, or will you make a "pilot" to pitch it? In CG or...like CG and camcorder?? [23:29] Okay, so at the moment, you just want writings, to show what we're capable of?? [23:29] at the moment whats being pitched is a talent contest to see who will go on to build the ship on your ideas warrior? [23:29] As I said earlier, I have had contact with certain people in the right places for this to be viable. [23:29] Kai, bingo. [23:30] Good wording *L* [23:30] ah... now it makes sense [23:30] But what is the NEXT step after writing it. Pitch it as a script with designs, or do a demo reel of the product? [23:30] Not to me it don't LOL [23:30] the next step is we get the idea that Warrior has.. the DD [23:30] no no, after the final script I mean [23:31] but until he's got the talent pool he feels is right, he's protecting the idea [23:31] Brutus, the concept of it is written out, with a possible primary script, with some story boards. Then the idea is pitched. [23:31] Okay, please answer the question, to clarify what you want..... [23:31] Just general writings (story ideas) so you can see who has the necessary skills for this project ?? [23:31] Say FOX picked it up and UPN was also interested: Both may want to go a slightly different directin with it. [23:32] So, "Project Orion" makes sense with your secret ideas? Or is it a general working title? [23:32] The final title is Orion. [23:32] Why? [23:32] Project: Orion is the development of it. [23:32] i think just 'cause he likes the name :p [23:32] So obviously it's earth-centric to be named Orion right? [23:33] I think the title should be subject to review at a later date :) [23:33] Why is FarScape called FarScape? Why is Battlestar Galactica called Battlestar Galactica? :) [23:33] Kai-Bach grabs a pencil and sketches out a ship... hmmm [23:33] would not necessarily have to be earth centric [23:33] Because it's a battlestar ship named galactica, duh. [23:33] farscape's working titles was "Space Chase" [23:33] ok there is one important question [23:33] Brutus, right. And this shi is called Orion :) [23:33] TheSpud raises hand [23:34] Can you answer my question please?? [23:34] WarriorDL pulls Spuds hand down [23:34] If your movie was named Love in Rome, it tells us a little about the picture [23:34] sacramentum eodeo. [23:34] with the modelers... do we have to stick to one format? eg, say I got in.. I work in Truespace... how do we deal with the format compatabily issues? [23:34] oh, should I be leaving ? [23:34] Conversion or a remodel in a better program *evil grin* [23:35] ha ha thats a serious question [23:35] Mobius, did you ask a question I didn't see? [23:35] Is SeanR already picked for this? [23:35] Spud, hang on a sec. [23:35] I'll leave you alone so you can talk. I'll be back around 8-ish. [23:35] No one but me is picked for this. [23:35] Mobius [newbie@65.173.21.211] has quit IRC (Quit (Have a jellybaby.)) [23:35] So far. [23:35] Do I have to move to Hollywood? [23:36] Only if you win and it sells :) Cuz you'd be a co-creator. [23:36] heh heh [23:36] Could I direct? [23:36] Hel, I dunno if you'd have to move! I've never owned a top franchise before. [23:37] Do you want it to succeed? [23:37] I'm awesome though [23:37] Young Kubrick [23:37] Spud, the chat is being saved, so your answers are farther up before you entered. [23:38] Yeah I know, it's a simple yes or no question though, and I'd like to at least have a chance of contributing to this chat in some way. [23:38] Now.. back to fighters: I will say there will be fighters involved. ut whther or not they come from the main ship or a support ship, I dunno yet. [23:39] Good :) [23:39] aah right [23:39] fighters I have in abundance [23:39] It's a "turn you loose to develop 5 main characters" to see where your talent/creativity is. [23:39] That was to Spud. [23:39] Thank you. [23:39] One last nagging question. I have one story that I must send confidentially. Is that possible? The rest I can post on the forum. But this one is too special to me. [23:39] Fighters I have none of ;) [23:40] Phoenix 4,5, the Dragonfly and the Blowfly [23:40] LOL, good, that'll give everyone else a chance :p [23:40] *L* @ Lee [23:40] Can we post ideas as to a story, for others to use if we haven't the means to develop them ourselves ? [23:40] Brutus, that's fine. [23:40] Kai-Bach ties thor's hands behind his back so he has to model with his nose [23:40] Would I send to your email addy? [23:41] *L* [23:41] I got plenty of Capital ship Ideas though ;P [23:41] lol thats the prob ;) [23:41] Ryo, that's u to you on what you do with your work prior to it becoming a part of Project: Orion. But I will say this: If you do that, it is the FINAL deeloper of it, not the initial, who'll get the credit. [23:41] warriordl@3dgladiators.com for Brutus [23:42] Thor - I have atleast 80 capital ship designs at last count :) [23:42] thank you [23:42] Ryo, how many of them are good? [23:42] Some.. [23:42] IMHO that is :) [23:42] Cool! More competition then! ;) [23:42] Oh! before I forget, for the writers: DO try to develop BOTH male and female. [23:42] So Warrior, yu planning on doing all the VFX "in house" then too? [23:42] well on Warriors layout he's given us for this talent search.. I canna enter the Nexus... cos I have no idea how she works lol [23:43] Warrior, is there a 'base' to each character? Or are we to create them from scratch?? [23:43] Any problems if they are all gay and lesbian? [23:43] D.O., unknown at this time. [23:43] Spud, foir this, scratch. [23:43] Cool. [23:43] Brutus, nope. [23:43] If you decide to do it, let me know. I can offer some renderfarm time. [23:44] What's the budget? [23:44] gotta eat dinner. bbl [23:44] Dauntless is now known as Dauntaway [23:44] 100mil? [23:44] Recall: I do have stuff in mind, so anything that wins has the possibility of not being used. This is to show your talent to get in on this. [23:44] Does it matter if our designes are Modeled or just Drawn ? [23:44] Drawn or modeled, don't matter. Just has to be well thought out. [23:45] Budget? None until it's sold. [23:45] Good :) [23:45] A tip: Evaluate, but don't copy, from other successful shows. See what works with them and what doesn't. [23:46] Is it possible what you have in mind won't be what you finally develop? Or is that set in stone? [23:46] Brutus, it' [23:46] Will there be a form for people interested in this to toss around ideas and such ( if they want ) that will seperate from the final Project forum for stuff that has been submited ? [23:46] Blah... try that again... [23:46] Brutus, nothing is ever written in stone until the final viewer turns of the show :) [23:47] What kinda format do you want these char dev. in? Character Sheet or narrative?? [23:47] Ryo, perhaps... but MUCH later. [23:47] k [23:47] Up to you. Both if feesable. [23:47] Okay cool. [23:47] Kai-Bach paces [23:48] Thor1 gets hungry [23:48] Arrghman is also hungry, and starts gnawing on his own arm [23:48] Kai-Bach throws Thor some G'agh [23:48] I will say right now though, that one TV channel will never get offered this unless they offer zillions of dollars... *L* [23:48] LOL> [23:48] By way of simple conversation, what shows DO you like Warrior? [23:48] we can count out Fox then lol [23:49] Not Fox, Kai.... [23:49] Lifetime? [23:49] SciFi or UPN [23:49] I like SciFi drama shows. [23:49] Lexx? [23:49] Do you...not any scifi shows in particular? [23:49] Lexx is cool :D [23:49] Kai-Bach gags Ry [23:49] He likes BSG and TOS :) [23:49] I didn't say SciFI XXX, Kai! *THWACK!* [23:49] i've gotta go y'all... but im gonna stay in here so i can log everything and read it later [23:49] ? [23:50] See ya later Argy. [23:50] Laters Lee [23:50] Arrghman is now known as ArrghAway [23:50] Ok Lee. Thanks. [23:50] lexx is actually a very good show [23:50] no [23:50] compared to what? [23:50] Baywatch [23:50] heh heh [23:50] LOL [23:50] most of the trek franchise [23:50] LOL. [23:50] I like Static better.. [23:50] Ryoken3D kicks Kai [23:51] I like shows like BSG, TOS, TNG, DS9. [23:51] tis my opinion [23:51] to me, since DS9 ended trek died [23:51] Do you remember that show from years back, I forget the name...but it was really cool. [23:51] I also like SciFi Action stuff, but not as much fora long haul franchise (which is why many fail. They make 'em action scifi instead of drama scifi) [23:51] Okay, so that narrows it down LOL [23:51] Could you be a little more vauge ? [23:52] Oh I know which one you mean, the one that was on TV. [23:52] Is was like "high concept" and they went to a world that was like dark on one side and they had atmospheric processor things in the sky. [23:52] It had an actor with a name in it, didn't it? [23:52] Yeah, I think he had hair too. [23:53] A lot of the designs....clothing for instance was Victorian inspired [23:53] Oh! I know the one! he had a foot and a hand too! [23:53] victorian? *perk* [23:53] Ok... anymore questions? [23:53] And they had a large animatronic character [23:53] nevermind. [23:53] yup when does the area we cna post in open? [23:53] LOL. [23:54] It doesn't. You'll have to mail me so I can set your permissions. [23:54] check [23:54] Do we have to have something to submit first ? Or can we still be working on it ? [23:54] well I'll haveto get my email working first.. *kicks NTL* [23:54] I'll make an announcement on that so the people not here that already contacted me as showing interest will know as well. [23:54] Sounds good. [23:54] I've got a story about a bird with free-will....it's very scientific [23:54] Welll.... You do have me on ICQ too Kai. [23:54] okay have to go now but am interested [23:54] thats true [23:55] ok.. count me in [23:55] tis a job for a Pioneer lol [23:55] Hey Recon, as a writer or designer? [23:55] I'm in......as a writer and prop designer :D [23:55] I am most defenitly interested :) [23:55] I'm in as a writer. [23:56] Model maker me ;) [23:56] :D [23:56] Great... *L* Everyone *but* who I asked is answering :p [23:56] Kai-Bach hands Thor a dueling Pistol.. ok it's 5 paces turn and fire ok? [23:57] Thor1 accepts! [23:57] :D [23:57] SHOOT OUT! [23:57] TheSpud puts on flak jacket and ducks [23:57] Shoot out at the 3DG Channel! [23:57] Kai-Bach draws out his Dueling 75mm Dueling Cannon [23:57] Before you shoot ! [23:57] Ready? PACE! [23:57] Sign this paper.. It says I get your stuff :) [23:58] Kai-Bach paces 5 [23:58] WarriorDL ducks [23:58] 4 [23:58] 3 [23:58] 2 [23:58] 1 [23:58] Thor1 just turns round and starts shooting [23:58] I'm over here [23:58] Kai-Bach fires [23:58] *L* [23:58] 4*Plays a haunting theme on the harmonica [23:58] Thor1 goes for a sandwich [23:58] TheSpud gets shot in the ass. [23:58] Hey! That was my hair piece! *kicks Kai* [23:58] Heeeeeey, bad shot. [23:58] I thought it was eating your head [23:58] lol [23:59] Ok.. no more Q's? [23:59] Put it perspective. [23:59] Go for it. [23:59] Lets see whatcha got out of it. [23:59] You have "contacts" but....like GOOD contacts, or GREAT contacts? [23:59] well yeah, but not directly related to the context of the current discussion. [23:59] Both [00:00] Like an imaginary example....Steven Spielberg? [00:00] My left eye contact gets blurry once in a while, so it's just good. My right eye contact is great though. [00:00] Oh! You mean in Hollywood. [00:01] yeah [00:01] I ain't sayin' who. Sorry, but that is a trade secret. [00:01] ok we have contacts [00:01] Are we gonna get paid? LOL ((j/k)) [00:01] Lets just say a few scifi movies have been developed under them and were quite successful. [00:02] Yeah, give us an imaginary person of the same calibre [00:02] Spud, as I said earlier: Not til it's sold. And if you're on the team. [00:02] Oh God, not Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich LOL [00:02] real person, but someone you don't know, I mean [00:02] He knows a guy who sold coffee to a resterant where Speilburg once got a cup of Coffee :D *ducks* [00:02] hmm... okies.... [00:02] One guy: First initial: T Last initial: D. [00:02] Iguess as more of a writer [00:03] Ted Demme? [00:03] I know I know! [00:03] Gentlemen.. Start your Creative Processes... [00:03] Ted Danson?? LOL [00:03] *rolls eyes* [00:03] LMAO [00:03] In fact, (don't say if you guess, Recon!) Recon should have a good idea of whom I refer. [00:04] i cant draw straight lines with a ruler [00:04] What a richly bizarre statement LOL [00:05] ooh free weekend on the horror movie channel :) [00:05] thats why I do beeter with writing the pad have lines [00:05] and they're showing Hellraiser 2... *sigh* got it! [00:05] webmaster [~webmaster@dsl-b2-34.sisna.com] has joined #3DGladiators [00:05] Ok... if nothing else, I am turning the chat over to free chat. [00:05] Hehe, I'm watching the top 20 women of comedy on Paramout. LOL [00:06]