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Dennis
February 24th, 2003, 06:28 PM
I keep saying to myself that if I start another model, it won't be another Trek ship.

And I decide that I probably won't start another model for a while.

Then something catches my attention. Drat.

This is about equally based on the Excelsior and on several of John Eaves' unused sketches for a ship called the Endeavour which ultimately didn't make its way into "First Contact".

This is early and rough. The superstructure may change a lot. The saucer is the size of Excelsior's saucer.


http://www.subspacebbs.com/renderings/endeavour1.jpg

katefan
February 25th, 2003, 04:17 AM
Looks interesting so far. One of the things I never liked about the Excelsior was the neck. This looks much better.

Trek
February 25th, 2003, 05:45 AM
That's a great start. Love it already. :)

cardinalbiggles
February 25th, 2003, 06:41 AM
Nice start, Dennis! Can't wait to see more! :thumbsup:

Scott Gammans
February 25th, 2003, 09:07 AM
Neato! I have never understood, though, how the hangar bay doors on the Excelsior class are supposed to slide open with their severe slope... perhaps the Endeavour model will show us the way...?

More, more!

Hito
February 25th, 2003, 09:07 AM
but where is the Dawnstar? :cry:

EBOLII
February 25th, 2003, 07:00 PM
woop woooop oooop...........:eek: :eek: :eek:

Dennis
February 25th, 2003, 07:01 PM
This isn't a lot of progress, but I had to pretty much completely rebuild the engineering hull because the proportions weren't right.

http://www.subspacebbs.com/renderings/endeavour2.jpg

Melvin the Dork
February 25th, 2003, 07:08 PM
Great start although I have to say; this and a lot of new ships, cannon and fan created. I miss secondary hulls. I like the ship and it isn't nearly as bad as most of the newer ships. Good ship, but I miss the secondary hull.
Mel

Trek
February 26th, 2003, 05:10 AM
Is this baised on the sketches from The Star Trek Maganize this month?

(I got it because of the 5 view of the Insurrection E-E)

Dennis
February 26th, 2003, 05:52 AM
Yep (see first post). :)

Trek
February 26th, 2003, 12:06 PM
DOH!

Boh_iNfecTeD
February 26th, 2003, 01:33 PM
did that issue just come out? I don't think I've seen it yet

Oh, cool ship :)

Starship
February 26th, 2003, 02:16 PM
Gret start Dennis. I believe that you´ll show us another exceptional mesh. :)

Originally posted by Trek
Is this baised on the sketches from The Star Trek Maganize this month?


I don´t have this magazine in my country, and I´m curious.... :)

Could you make some scans and post them here ? :D

Kakaze
February 26th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Are you going to do an excelsior one day too?

:hopes:

This one looks like it might be pretty cool. And like Starship said, can you post some of the sketches so we can see what it might look like all finished?

Trek
February 26th, 2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Starship
Could you make some scans and post them here ? :D

Unfortuneatly my scanner is out so I can do any scans.

Dennis
February 26th, 2003, 07:18 PM
http://www.subspacebbs.com/renderings/endeavour3.jpg

tgg7979
February 26th, 2003, 07:52 PM
lookin good as usual Dennis, what style nacelles is it gonna have, maybe a variant of the sovereigns?

Melvin the Dork
February 27th, 2003, 03:46 PM
Sovy front/bussard collector with excelsior rear nacelle. That's my two cents.
Mel

Dennis
February 27th, 2003, 07:27 PM
Other than the bridge and the superstructure, the saucer modeling is finished:

http://www.subspacebbs.com/renderings/endeavour4.jpg

And thanks to Reaperman's instructions, here are some wireframes:

http://www.subspacebbs.com/renderings/end_wire.jpg

Trek
February 28th, 2003, 05:01 AM
This is so very cool.

cardinalbiggles
February 28th, 2003, 06:13 AM
One word: Duuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!!!! :drool:

Here, you deserve a cookie! :cookie: :)

Dennis
February 28th, 2003, 06:55 PM
http://www.subspacebbs.com/renderings/endeavour5.jpg

rosel_sampson
March 1st, 2003, 05:49 AM
i think the nacelles may be too big, other than that nice design:thumbsup:

General Phoenix
March 1st, 2003, 01:30 PM
I like the nacelles - but I do think that open space between them could use something. Perhaps a Miranda-style weapons pod?

F.A.M.
March 1st, 2003, 02:28 PM
Very nice, although I'm going with Rosel on this one, I think the necells are a bit oversized....

seanr
March 2nd, 2003, 02:01 PM
I agree. The nacells are HUGE. They'd also look much better slung under the pylons, I think, instead of ontop of them.

Dennis
March 2nd, 2003, 05:57 PM
http://www.subspacebbs.com/renderings/endeavour6.jpg

Melvin the Dork
March 2nd, 2003, 08:28 PM
I think the nacelles are fine in size, the thing is with no neck on the ship the look big, maybe have them pointing the other way, have them below the pilon rather then above. Like the Miranda/Reliant nacelles.
Mel

cardinalbiggles
March 3rd, 2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by General Phoenix
I like the nacelles - but I do think that open space between them could use something. Perhaps a Miranda-style weapons pod?
I agree... either that or a Nebula-style sensor pallet (the flat, Farragut kind, not the oblong one from the Phoenix that looked like it came from an AWAC model kit).

edit: Or, maybe a combination of that and what Melvin suggested with tucking the nacelles under. It could work.

Dennis
March 3rd, 2003, 06:26 PM
Thanks. :)http://www.subspacebbs.com/renderings/enddeavour7.jpg

mchristou
March 4th, 2003, 06:44 AM
Looking good there Dennis :)

Regards
Matt

ThierryD
March 8th, 2003, 07:17 AM
more more

Zheobitt
March 10th, 2003, 10:16 AM
Looks good, but i liked more the way it looked with the excelsior-saucer, IMHO.

But nice, yes.