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tgg7979
March 2nd, 2003, 01:07 AM
Ive finally got around to starting my next modeling project, and here it is, an early second generation camaro, a 71 to be exact.
This is what Ive got on the body after more than a couple hours messin with and getting used to NURMS.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip1.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip2.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip3.jpg

And for those deprived souls who know nothing about classic muscle cars, a pic of what this thing will eventually look like

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/72cam03.jpg

SeanP
March 2nd, 2003, 12:06 PM
Well I know my muscle cars so I just had to comment.
This style is my second favorite Camaro (my favs are the 69 Z28 and the 69 ZL1).
I'm glad you chose the RS with the split bumper - it always looks better than the big ugly one piece bumper.
The model looks good so far.
I would suggest you break it down into smaller pieces instead of doing one big piece though.
One of these days I am going to do a 69 Z28 in 3D - right down to the last bolt.

On a side note I went to the car show here in Edmonton yesterday to look at new cars and to take some pictures of the local "Holy Grail" of muscle cars.
A guy here in Edmonton has a 1970 Plymouth Superbird (440 Six Pack car) - the only one ever built that is white with a white interior - with only 818 original miles on it.
The same guy owns a 1970 Dodge Charger RT - the only car that year shipped from the factory in panther pink.
It also has some kind of special racing suspension - again the only car that shipped that way that year.

tgg7979
March 2nd, 2003, 09:07 PM
Not much of an update here, it was sunday, which meant a race and a basketball game to watch(My team won again, #2 in the nation :thumbsup: ). Spent most of time I had messin with the body shape with not much to show for it. I started on the front headlights, but Im probably gonna end up redoing the lenses, but Im not sure yet.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip4.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip5.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip6.jpg

tgg7979
March 3rd, 2003, 01:17 AM
After that basically pointless update, I couldnt leave it at that, so I got a little more done, and the headlights are much better now.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip7.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip8.jpg

General Phoenix
March 3rd, 2003, 01:20 AM
That's a damn good start!

Proximo
March 3rd, 2003, 05:06 AM
OH wow... :D how did you do the light lenses?

tgg7979
March 3rd, 2003, 08:50 AM
The light lenses are maps

tgg7979
March 4th, 2003, 12:15 AM
I think I am gonna build the headlights instead of texture them. Look for the new headlights with the next updates, but for now, heres some more work on the front end. Ive also created the front windshield and side windows. Anyways, enjoy.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip9.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip10.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip11.jpg

JasonA
March 4th, 2003, 02:12 PM
very cool, coming together well. not sure on this, but compared to the ref picture it looks like the grill should be recessed a bit further? No big deal tho. It'll be sweet when done :)

I agree with seanp about your strategy. I think you'll find it easier to make all of the seams if you break up your box modeling into the various components instand of making it one big hinkin mesh -- but of course thats up to you

tgg7979
March 4th, 2003, 02:18 PM
Your right about the grille, JasonA, I moved it back this morning. Thanks for the comments, they are appreciated

tgg7979
March 4th, 2003, 11:24 PM
The headlights didnt get done today, I spent most of the day building the wheels and ATTEMPTING to build the tires, that and I redid the front grille. The inner hub and spokes texture isnt gonna change much but the outer rim texture is temporary till I can figure out how I want to do it.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/TTIIWip1.jpg

General Phoenix
March 5th, 2003, 12:35 AM
Man, that's a beuatiful machine...

I'm watching this thread like a hawk from now on. :D

Hito
March 5th, 2003, 09:12 AM
We should stick it to the top :D

tgg7979
March 5th, 2003, 06:21 PM
Thanks guys, Im glad u like it. Finally got the tire done usin Vipers help to figure the mini tut Nico posted awhile back. Thanks Viper. I really like the way it turned out.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/TTIIandTire1.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/TTIIandTire2.jpg

tgg7979
March 6th, 2003, 01:20 AM
Heres another round of updates. The main body is nearly complete, still no new headlights tho, tomorrow, hopefully. Whats left for the body is the rear window,the new headlights, front lower spoiler, rear deck spoiler, rear bumper, door handles, key holes, and emblem(s).

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip1.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip2.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip3.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip4.jpg

JasonA
March 6th, 2003, 09:01 AM
in a word, lookin sweeeeet. looks like you have a few owies around the windshield tho. The body is looking superb, those tires really fill it out. great work :)

tgg7979
March 6th, 2003, 09:34 AM
Yeah, the windshield, someone at sfm mentioned that too. I cant find any errors right there, and the problem apperas to be with the shadows and go completely away with a texture on there, so, I think everythings ok.

seanr
March 6th, 2003, 10:40 AM
The edges seem kind of rubbery (not smooth and crisp, too rounded and not well defined).

tgg7979
March 6th, 2003, 11:17 AM
Are you talking about the windshield Seanr? The edges are sharp, they were extruded righgt out of the polys of the body. I cant figure out whats casuing the errors, especially since Im usin Brazil's GI. I really think they are shadow errors, take a look a few posts back up, the errors arent there in those wips and I havent touched the windshield since then.

tgg7979
March 10th, 2003, 11:16 AM
Well, things have not gone excactly as I had hoped when redoing the body. This project is not dead.

Hopefully and thats a big HOPEFULLY I'll have some updates tonite, even if its just the new body up to the point where I restarted the old one.

Go Cats, 20 in a row and undefeated in the South Eastern Conference!! :thumbsup:

seanr
March 10th, 2003, 12:10 PM
No, not the windshield, I mean the entire body. The whole thing is excessively smoothed (and not quite cleanly, either, it looks a little lumpy almost).

tgg7979
March 10th, 2003, 01:17 PM
Id say Ive pretty much fixed all the lumpiness with the new body, it looks much better now. All far as overall too smooth, I dont know, I like the way it looks besides the aforementioned lumpiness. I think once i get everything on there the way it should be, itll look fine

tgg7979
March 10th, 2003, 11:02 PM
Here we go, didnt get quite as far as I had wanted, oh well, heres the latest updates. As always, let me know what u think

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip5.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip6.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip7.jpg

tgg7979
March 13th, 2003, 06:22 PM
Heres the latest round of wip pics. I added the front and rear windshields and side windows. The trim pieces around them are not done yet, I still have to go through and chamfer all the edges. Now shes really starting to look like a car.


http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip8.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip9.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip10.jpg

Melvin the Dork
March 13th, 2003, 11:52 PM
The rear end looks a bit harder/sharper then I think that 2nd Gen Camaro is but other then that looks great. Coming along well.
Mel

tgg7979
March 14th, 2003, 12:18 AM
I do have some tweaking to do to the back end plus theres still a spoiler to go on there, so everything should come out all right in the end

General Phoenix
March 14th, 2003, 01:03 AM
Looking better every minute!

Just don't forget to to model the inside of the wheel wells - you can still see through them to the tires on the other side of the car.

tgg7979
March 14th, 2003, 12:31 PM
Dont worry, I will. Ive still got a long ways to go. Like for instance, an interior, a chassis, and a drivetrain.

Drakath
March 14th, 2003, 01:10 PM
Looks very good so far.

General Phoenix
March 14th, 2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by tgg7979
Ive still got a long ways to go. Like for instance, an interior, a chassis, and a drivetrain.

And a pair of fuzzy dice to top ot all off, I hope... :)

tgg7979
March 14th, 2003, 07:18 PM
Ill put a pair in there just for Phoenix.

tgg7979
March 15th, 2003, 11:04 PM
Not much to post, been away from the comp quite a bit this weekend so far. I did finally sit down and make a hood for this thing, just remember, its still not quite finished.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/BodyWip12.jpg

tgg7979
March 17th, 2003, 12:55 AM
Unfortunatly, just another one pic update, as u can see, Ive started cutting up the mesh and adding in the chassis

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/ChassisWip1.jpg

General Phoenix
March 17th, 2003, 05:17 PM
Love the hood, man!

This baby's bitchin'...

Bernardo Ratto
March 18th, 2003, 03:17 PM
Yup, great job, man.

tgg7979
March 25th, 2003, 11:30 AM
It's back. I sat down and started making the chassis for this beast. Not much to tell, but here are the pics.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/ChassisWip2.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/ChassisWip3.jpg

rosel_sampson
March 25th, 2003, 03:45 PM
i really like this model its a good car. and your work only makes the car look better!

tgg7979
April 11th, 2003, 12:48 PM
Its Back! Like the fabled Phoenix, she arises. Not much, but here is an update, started modeling the interior, and added seats and worked on the glass settings to get rid of the funky mirror effect. Its kinda weird, Im at a LAN party and get more modeling done than I have in weeks.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/FullWip11.jpg

tgg7979
April 12th, 2003, 12:58 AM
Well folks, she is a goner, I had to reformat because of several problems and in my haste to hurry and finish the reformat, I deleted max and all the meshes within my max 5 folder. I might eventually attempt to do the mesh again, but not now.

thomas7g
April 12th, 2003, 09:19 AM
Looks really great!

I've owned two camaros, though not this little hugger, and I've always liked the Rally Sport design. I had a friend that owned one but her car was the latter version with the single bumper. I always envied her with that car, and she treated it so bad. She would leave it on the street with the windows down at night!

The two minor things that bother me about this mesh is that the corners of the front grill are sharp angles. It should be a smooth curvy corner. And the hood area goes right up to the window. It shouldn't far as I remember. There was this approx. 6 inch wide strip between the windshield and hood. It wouldn't have the big center mound of the hood. It had windshield wipers attached to it and a grill on each side.

:D

tgg7979
April 25th, 2003, 10:51 PM
Ok, I need your guys help. First, Im back to where I was when I thought Id lost this thing. Should I go on and build a full chassis and engine for it, or just get the interior done, and call it done.

Second, Ive been messing around with some HDRI renderings, and I cant get it right to save my life. So if u guys got any suggestions, Id love to hear em. Heres what I got so far.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/Camarohdriwip1.jpg

General Phoenix
April 26th, 2003, 07:05 PM
As cool as it would be to be able to peek under the hood, I think you'd be fine just finishing off the interior. (And don't forget the mirrors.)

Damn this is nice... :)

tgg7979
April 28th, 2003, 01:32 AM
Well, thanks to Viper, I got the HDRI issues sorted out. These images however, arent rendered with it, these are just playing around images, trying out different colors. These also use the Brazil Auto Paint material, which looks MUCH better. Anyway, here you go, lemme know what colors u like for when I finish this thing. Thanks Viper

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroBlack.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroBlue.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroOrange.jpg

Trek
April 28th, 2003, 05:58 AM
:drool:

tgg7979
April 28th, 2003, 06:22 PM
Well, I started on some more stuff for this thing, like the license plate area and rear bumper, which I had forgotten about. The bumper is still a WIP, its turned out to be a pain to get right.
I went ahead and rendered in a couple different colors, the green was a recommendation from Psycho Path, I like it.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroLightGreen.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroRed.jpg

General Phoenix
April 29th, 2003, 07:36 PM
I like the black myself - it's very sleek.

tgg7979
April 30th, 2003, 01:37 AM
Thanks, Im glad u guys are liking it so far. Well heres a shot after I finished the doors and cut the trunklid. Ive got most of the body seams pretty much set. Here ya go. Lemme know what u guys think.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroBlack2.jpg

tgg7979
May 7th, 2003, 11:29 PM
Ok, here we go. Ive got the dash and console shapes pretty much finalized. Now to detail em then move on to the steering wheel and column.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroInteriorWip1.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroInteriorWip2.jpg

tgg7979
May 18th, 2003, 02:31 AM
Ok, I know this isnt much of an update, things have been really busy lately. Sorry:( Anyway, been slowly doin some work to the interior.


http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroInteriorWip3.jpg

Chris B
May 18th, 2003, 04:07 AM
will you write a tutorial about the modelling process, when done?

General Phoenix
May 18th, 2003, 02:00 PM
Is that where the stereo really goes? It seems rather inconvenient with the gearshift blocking it.

tgg7979
May 18th, 2003, 02:21 PM
The interior of this thing isnt gonna be a recreation of the original, its gonna be more a customized interior. But yeah, the original stereo sat in pretty much the same position, albeit a little farther back. I also know thats where the stereo is in my 91 camaro. Its not hard at all to get too, as long as your in 2nd, 4th, or reverse gears.

EBOLII
May 18th, 2003, 03:51 PM
error with your email address...it was my fault

resend it to mesh@sci-trek2001.com so I can send the leather zip file...500kb

tgg7979
May 28th, 2003, 05:24 PM
Heres another couple renders for you guys. Ive got to add a couple small little things then Im gonna call the release version done. Enjoy, but let me know what u think.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/Stripes2.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/Stripes3.jpg

General Phoenix
May 28th, 2003, 08:08 PM
Excellent! I even like the paint job. :D

Are you going to add Texas plates and the inspection / registration stickers on the windshield? :)

tgg7979
May 28th, 2003, 10:11 PM
I forgot youre in texas as well, Im down here in Ft. worth, but no, no texas plates or stickers. Texas sucks :lol:

tgg7979
May 30th, 2003, 07:07 PM
Heres the pretty much final mesh. I have some texturing tweaks to make but the next time u see a new render of this thing will be in the art forum, in some kind of image.

As said earlier in the thread, if youd like a copy of the mesh lemme know. Im making this version available but the detailed to the max version will be kept for myself and privelaged few who may want to do something with it.

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroFullFinal1.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroFullFinal2.jpg

http://tgg7979.scifi-meshes.com/CamaroFullFinal3.jpg

General Phoenix
May 30th, 2003, 11:49 PM
Friggin' beautiful, man.

(I agree BTW, Texas does suck. If I could afford to pay state income taxes, I'd move. :D )

Only one nit - where's the fuzzy dice you promised? :(

tgg7979
June 1st, 2003, 01:11 PM
Thnx Phoenix, Im glad u like it. Believe me, if it was up to me, Id get out of this state yesterday.

I havent forgot about the dice, but Im not sure the best way to make them, I cant find a suitable way of making them fuzzy.