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Originally Posted by Kakaze
You are seriously missing out on some good shït.
I like the old BSG, it's great for all it's camp and wide eyed "we're gonna make it" attitude, but the new show... The new show is real Sci Fi. It's dark, it's filled with drama and suspense, has great characters. I love Starbuck even if I was pissed that they made her a woman in the beginning.
Those weenies at CF just stick their heads in the sand and chant "this is not BSG" over and over again all because issues that have been raised on, oh, pretty much every drama in the last decade, have been raised on BSG as well.
Rapes happen almost every week on CSI and Law & Order. Babies are killed in more brutal ways than having the necks snapped on the same shows. And just watch any court drama to hear the "maybe we did deserve it" schtick. God forbid any of that get into a science fiction show, much less the new BSG which was never intended to be like the original except for the plot and circumstances behind it.
I'm willing to bet that everyone who had a problem with these issues on BSG has no problem at all with those same issues on other shows, and considering CSI and Law & Order are some of the most watched shows on TV it's a fair bet that a large portion of CF watches them.
It's all just sour grapes, I think. And it's sad that the few people in power decided that the whole forum had to collectively stick their fingers in their ears and hum loudly where new BSG is concerned. I'm honestly surprised they don't ban artwork based on the new series.
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Well, I'm not joking.
You're right - I have no problem with shows like the
CSI's or
Law and Order's showing realistic murder, rape and other example of man's inhumanity to man. Those shows are supposed to be "ripped from the headlines" and fictionalized accounts of real-world events.
Battlestar Galactica isn't. And yet that unrealistically misogynistic one-dimensional anti-American propaganda piece of derivative cliché-ridden alleged science-fiction soap opera you're getting a woodie over has suicide bombers, oppressive occupiers, valiant insurgents who fight the noble fight against the oppressive occupiers...
If it's picked up for a fourth season (God forbid), bet your bottom dollar that Saddam - I mean, Gaius or somebody - gets hung. Refusing a blindfold and defiant to the end.
And is portrayed as a good guy.
Great characters? My lily white, they're great characters. They are 100% disfunction and base impulses. Where's the basic human nobility? Where's the military discipline? Where's the humanity? Where's the hope?
And where's the
Battlestar Galactica in all this? This is a bleak and unappetizing 90210. This is any LA streetcorner. There is no imagination at work here. Look at the costumes - suits and ties. Names you can pick out of any freaking telephone book. Marlboro's. Present-day American idiom.
The producers don't think you can identify with these people unless they look exactly like you do, talk exactly like you do, and are called "Bill" or "Lee". That, my friend, is an insult to your intelligence, whether you recognize it or not.
Where's the
Battlestar Galactica in all this? The Kobollian characters are missing, the names we were familiar with reduced to call signs. The rich human history hinted at throughout the original series isn't there. That's because there are only three things from the original series used here: the name, the genocidal attack, the basic Viper design. That's it. That's all. The rest is a conglomeration of WWII B-movies and adolescent sex fantasies.
I won't get into the bought-and-paid-for "fan base" they manufactured, or the fights they started on purpose.
Do I want to see 1978 again? What kind of an idiot do you take me for? I want to see BSG presented with 2007 storytelling technology, with next-generation CGI. I want to see stories and characters that rise above aluminum cowboy hats and deal with the trials they face.
The basis of the BSG universe was solid, compelling - and thrown away. It could still make for excellent entertainment if somebody would pull their heads out and recognize that what they sat on for so long could make them a lot of money.
Do you think I'm going to sweat a girl called "Starbuck" given all this?
I'm going to invite you to learn more about the original BSG by reading this:
http://www.cylon.org/bsg/1978-intro-01.html
We've got one of the most extensive
Battlestar Galactica sections you'll find anywhere - even sites devoted exclusively to BSG don't have what we have at CA.
Sour grapes? No, not by any stretch of the imagination.
And be very, very careful of who you call names, junior.
I am
Dawg
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P.S. Hey, evil - will you please kill this damn thread before I really get mad?
