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Old December 28th, 2010, 06:14 AM   #1
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Default Coming Soon Part "2" Romulan Bridge

This is now set for release and Fretslayer agrees .

I have some tweaking to do and since Virtualkey08 has released a great Romulan model to our download area. its time for another Romulan set to be added.

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to following that will a large Corridor set up.. I never know how much stuff to fill this ship and spartan look felt better more than looked better..
I don´t know.

I also included a image of the plan of it,

its to the same scale with the bridge and the elevator lines up with it...
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Old December 28th, 2010, 06:21 AM   #2
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Good grief, man! Have you taken over from seanr as THE interior guy? LOL
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Old December 28th, 2010, 06:31 AM   #3
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Good grief, man! Have you taken over from seanr as THE interior guy? LOL
Thanks Warrior ... I don´t think I am in the same class as Seanr but its I think a good attempt .... i like interior work
from time to time.

It was in part designed with Romulan BoP made by Sean Kennedy that is also in the Downloads area

wait until you see what is planed in the future .. in fact I would like to have a chat to Seanr if he still dropping in ???
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Old December 28th, 2010, 06:58 AM   #4
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Hello folks, sorry I haven't been around much lately. Been too busy to work on this stuff since I moved to DC five years ago, and now the software has left me behind - I'd have to relearn all of it.

One bit of advice I'd give you is to make the walls of the bridge set more angled or curved somehow rather than straight vertical. I always kind of figured the Romulans having either more organic or more angular designs depending on the era. To give you an idea of what I mean, here's one I did several years ago that has a very utilitarian military feel to it:

http://webolutionary.com/truespace/b...omulan4-12.jpg
http://webolutionary.com/truespace/b...omulan4-15.jpg

Another thing I did with that set was use a much darker lighting scheme than a typical Federation set to convey the darker brooding nature of the Romulans. That kind of mood lighting with a lot of shadowy spaces and smaller pools of light creates a very different appearance. I think the blues and greens feel a bit more Romulan too, whereas with a Klingon set I'd got for harsher yells, reds, and bare metal surfaces.

I'd also recommend spending a lot of time adding subtle finishing details to the set. Any piece of military hardware will have access panels and labels and things like that all over the place. A larger flagship might also have more ornamental finishes to soften the edge (an admiral doesn't want to feel like he's in command of a freighter). One thing I learned when I was doing this stuff is the details really do make all the difference in the world, helping to add realism where it might end up looking toyish otherwise.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 07:04 AM   #5
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Hello folks, sorry I haven't been around much lately. Been too busy to work on this stuff since I moved to DC five years ago, and now the software has left me behind - I'd have to relearn all of it.

One bit of advice I'd give you is to make the walls of the bridge set more angled or curved somehow rather than straight vertical. I always kind of figured the Romulans having either more organic or more angular designs depending on the era. To give you an idea of what I mean, here's one I did several years ago that has a very utilitarian military feel to it:

http://webolutionary.com/truespace/b...omulan4-12.jpg
http://webolutionary.com/truespace/b...omulan4-15.jpg

Another thing I did with that set was use a much darker lighting scheme than a typical Federation set to convey the darker brooding nature of the Romulans. That kind of mood lighting with a lot of shadowy spaces and smaller pools of light creates a very different appearance. I think the blues and greens feel a bit more Romulan too, whereas with a Klingon set I'd got for harsher yells, reds, and bare metal surfaces.

I'd also recommend spending a lot of time adding subtle finishing details to the set. Any piece of military hardware will have access panels and labels and things like that all over the place. A larger flagship might also have more ornamental finishes to soften the edge (an admiral doesn't want to feel like he's in command of a freighter). One thing I learned when I was doing this stuff is the details really do make all the difference in the world, helping to add realism where it might end up looking toyish otherwise.

Awesome. thanks for the feed back ,

your images are astounding, I am going to spend some time on this. I might release these and rework it from the start.

Version 2 if you will..

do you mind if I use your posted images as a reference for it
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Old December 28th, 2010, 07:11 AM   #6
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Feel free to! You can actually see all of my work in one big image dump here:

http://webolutionary.com/truespace/

Look for the bridge_romulan4 batch and you can actually see most of the build process.

For an interesting exercise, look at the older Romulan sets too and you'll see how my style and techniques evolved over time.
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BTW, one thing I just remembered, if you look at those WIPs for the romulan4 set, you'll see how modular everything is. That's very common in Star Trek sets (and military hardware in general) - it's far cheaper to build that way and individual parts can be swapped out easily.
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Feel free to! You can actually see all of my work in one big image dump here:

http://webolutionary.com/truespace/

Look for the bridge_romulan4 batch and you can actually see most of the build process.

For an interesting exercise, look at the older Romulan sets too and you'll see how my style and techniques evolved over time.
that's great. I will indeed look through the link you posted Seanr. thanks for your input.

these where the first sets I built for a fan film. what are the poly count on these babes . and render times out of interest
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BTW, one thing I just remembered, if you look at those WIPs for the romulan4 set, you'll see how modular everything is. That's very common in Star Trek sets (and military hardware in general) - it's far cheaper to build that way and individual parts can be swapped out easily.
I will take that into account for my next builds

I will post a thread in a new thread when ready and please feel free to make any suggestions .

my next model is the Enterprise but a re imagined approach of my own. but won´t be to far from the original one. and I will be building the sets to go in to it(figuratively specking)

The Bridge especially will take me to hand,, I like the design you did on your website as a guide too.. that set always looked closer to the TOS style in many ways ..
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I forget the polycounts but the files often grew quite large. Render times averaged between an hour or two to well over eight hours for the most complexly lit sets.
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I strongly encourage you to post a WIP thread at the very beginning of the construction of your sets rather than waiting until you've got it mostly done. That way you can take advantage of feedback as you go along.
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Feel free to! You can actually see all of my work in one big image dump here:

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Look for the bridge_romulan4 batch and you can actually see most of the build process.

For an interesting exercise, look at the older Romulan sets too and you'll see how my style and techniques evolved over time.
had a look at these and they have proved to be very helpful . a great guide for me


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Good grief, man! Have you taken over from seanr as THE interior guy? LOL
i think its hard for anyone to fill seanr's shoes, but he's definitely well on his way!
Taranis, your stuff is looking superb. while i love the forum, i think you would be able to get better feedback from more seasoned artists (we need to drag them over to 3dg kicking and screaming, but thats neither here nor there)

I would also guess that a texturing pass would do a world of good - get some dirt and scratches and maybe some bump maps. little things, but as sean says, its in the details.

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i think its hard for anyone to fill seanr's shoes, but he's definitely well on his way!
Taranis, your stuff is looking superb. while i love the forum, i think you would be able to get better feedback from more seasoned artists (we need to drag them over to 3dg kicking and screaming, but thats neither here nor there)

I would also guess that a texturing pass would do a world of good - get some dirt and scratches and maybe some bump maps. little things, but as sean says, its in the details.

w00t!
You have touch on my Achilles heel. "Texturing" ..
Taranis Bane.

but your right it need it,

this these where the quickest models I ever did at the time earlier in the year.. I did a number of models for the fan film.

The USS Stargazer´s Hanger Deck. for EG180s Stargazer model
The USS ARIES Oberth Class. in the downloads area
The Klingon Bridge, also in the downloads area
The Klingon Corridor, guess where!??
The Romulan Bridge, guess again
The Romulan Corridor, go on try
A space station room set never completed (Regula station),
Romulan Hall of Justice, for a flash back scene

by the time I was on the Romulan stuff I was shattered and at my lowest creative level. Fretslayer will tell you I was really at the low end of a dead battery.

I was also Co writing the story bible for the Fan Film or the background to the story and stepping on Fretslayers toes too.

I can say now it was a lot of work and hundreds of hours to get them. Now I have seen SeanR work, I have a guide to follow.
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Yes, I think its hard for anyone to fill seanr's shoes, but Gerard is definitely well on his way!
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Ger, I have a homework assignment for you
1. Pick a set, any set. I dont care which, as long as wires are available.
2. Build that set. Post WIP's on as many trek-related art forums (3dg, sfm, daz3d trek forums, trekbbs, okudagrams, foundation3d et al) - same WIP.
3. Take several aspirin and a 2 week vacation to someplace warm and sunny
4. Discuss with your therapist why you should be allowed near a computer again
5. Do a different set in the meantime to take your mind off of work
6. Get back to the original set. Cry in desperation, grab a beer, rebuild it. twice
7. Hack into my computer, get my address and come over and shoot me.
8. FINISH THE G--DAMN SET ALREADY!
9. Taranis = the new SeanR

take as much time as you need.

p.s. give tnpir4002 a shout. he's built some very impressive sets using only bryce, and i have no doubt he would love to give you hand in developing your skills. "Face Darth Maya you must, only then a Jedi you will be"
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Jedman67;263448]Ger, I have a homework assignment for you
*Noooooooo.. Home work ,, argggggge !!

1. Pick a set, any set. I dont care which, as long as wires are available.
Tv Set, Golfing set, oh bridge set.

2. Build that set. Post WIP's on as many trek-related art forums (3dg, sfm, daz3d trek forums, trekbbs, okudagrams, foundation3d et al) - same WIP.
No more forums, I cannot keep track of the ones I am on already

3. Take several aspirin and a 2 week vacation to someplace warm and sunny
Aspirin Im on, I live in sunny Spain, where its raining!!

4. Discuss with your therapist why you should be allowed near a computer again
therapist, therapist why does a therapist sound like it has terror in it

5. Do a different set in the meantime to take your mind off of work
back to the TVset

6. Get back to the original set. Cry in desperation, grab a beer, rebuild it. twice
I´ll grab a Guinness or 3. and call my neighbour a twit and here his cry of desperation.

7. Hack into my computer, get my address and come over and shoot me.
Hummmmm!!!!!!!. in Commandant Eric Lassard hesitation mode

8. FINISH THE G--DAMN SET ALREADY!
Bubby Smith mode turning over the Police car, arrrgggh or was that the Hulk

9. Taranis = the new SeanR
aw-shucks . twists foot in ground in a humble fashion

take as much time as you need.
Thanks for nothing. I have no time

p.s. give tnpir4002 a shout. he's built some very impressive sets using only bryce, and i have no doubt he would love to give you hand in developing your skills. "Face Darth Maya you must, only then a Jedi you will be"
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here is where I am here is where he will find me (in yoda voice)

LOL

But I do know tnpir4002 work and love to hear what he would say... SeanR have give me some great suggestions already.
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lol! always happy to help, unless it ends up in homicide
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ha ha Hmmmmmmmm!!!! lol
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But could be improved on ... but thanks ..
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dont be so harsh on yourself...there are plenty of other people around here for that!
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*runs*
Quick cut him of at the pass and the knees, then hang him up by by the ..........!!!!!! the .............Bridge Tower .. that´s it.
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