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Old February 4th, 2011, 07:08 PM   #31
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Alright folks, next one's up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU7EvRAGB3k

Just a note about this one, I need help picking out a piece (or pieces) of score to put behind this scene. By turns, I need something that's dark and suspenseful, then somber, then towards the very end starting to pick up just a bit, perhaps in preparation for a montage sequence. I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have
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Old February 4th, 2011, 09:07 PM   #32
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Schweet. I was just looking for something to do.

Great stuff, I'm liking this movie so far.
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Old February 4th, 2011, 10:23 PM   #33
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Lookin' good. For that music suggestion, I suggest maybe something from "The Black Hole".
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Old February 5th, 2011, 01:09 AM   #34
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Yeah looks great.... I will have a think about the music too.

one question . have you picked a composer that your like for the over all feel.

like you know a Goldsmith or a Williams musical score no matter the film with in a large degree of accuracy, at least for me.

In this case looking at your production for this, I would look at Goldsmith.

also there is the possibility to edit some musical scores or instances and perhaps create a piece to fit. (This is what I was think would be possible for the trek fan film I was working on and I was looking at the
work from Goldsmith or Horner).

Barry´s Black hole would have the elements your looking for but for the continuity of the film you should stick as much as possible with one composer.

That´s how I "think" I would do it, never having done it before .
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Old February 5th, 2011, 07:32 AM   #35
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Danny Elfman is good at dark music. I don't know if you have any of his music or not.
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Old February 5th, 2011, 01:26 PM   #36
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The thing to remember is that no one composer will fit every scene perfectly. Remember how in Specter I had music from eighteen separate artists (twenty-four if you count the folks behind the covers of various pieces of ST music, and twenty-eight if you count the pop songs and TPiR theme).

I've got a vast library of music at my command, but the problem is I haven't listened to it all. With everything from the Lost in Space movie score to The Ron Jones Project, to all the Star Trek film scores (including the full scores that haven't been released commercially), chances are somewhere in there I've got something that would work perfectly...it's just a matter of finding it. I'm hoping that various people out there might've listened to some of these, and together you guys might have heard this whole collection, and someone might know of a piece that will work well.
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The thing to remember is that no one composer will fit every scene perfectly. Remember how in Specter I had music from eighteen separate artists (twenty-four if you count the folks behind the covers of various pieces of ST music, and twenty-eight if you count the pop songs and TPiR theme).

I've got a vast library of music at my command, but the problem is I haven't listened to it all. With everything from the Lost in Space movie score to The Ron Jones Project, to all the Star Trek film scores (including the full scores that haven't been released commercially), chances are somewhere in there I've got something that would work perfectly...it's just a matter of finding it. I'm hoping that various people out there might've listened to some of these, and together you guys might have heard this whole collection, and someone might know of a piece that will work well.
I have a large collection too, some of those you mentioned.

I heard a piece from Star Trek Insurrection "The Prime Directive" . not really sure but you could tweak it
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I have a large collection too, some of those you mentioned.

I heard a piece from Star Trek Insurrection "The Prime Directive" . not really sure but you could tweak it
But say Jerry goldsmith has a vast musical catalogue with the same undertones, different films but you know its him. ok it take a lot of work to find it. and when it does not you then use another... but I am just throwing ideas out there. I understand your difficulties as they stand..
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Old February 6th, 2011, 12:22 PM   #39
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Alright folks, last preview clip is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq59DsBtVXI

Now unlike the previous ones, this one skips over some time between it and the previous clip. By the time of this clip, the Fitzgerald has cloaked and is safely an route to New Romulus at warp 9.
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Old February 6th, 2011, 01:29 PM   #40
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That looks good . good scene . I was listen to some music with this and I liked free minds from ST 5 Final Fronter.

I will have a listen to this again from the start to see if I can build an an alternative catalogue for you, if you want.

to use or discard as you wish... but it would be better if you could also at some time post it without the music in your vids.. that distracts me from forming idea...

but only if you want. I don´t want to add difficulty to your production. but it might give you some other ideas.. I can also do this via PM if you want to keep it under wraps more
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Old February 6th, 2011, 01:43 PM   #41
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@Taranis: any ideas are always welcome, if you get one by all means speak up! You never know when an idea you have might be the one, or even if I can't use an idea of yours for one reason or another, it might still lead me to a good solution!
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My biggest nitpick would be that your crew is mostly humans. You need some non-human crew members in these things.

The new clip is sweet, I'm looking forward to seeing the film when you have it completed.
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Old February 6th, 2011, 02:11 PM   #43
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@Taranis: any ideas are always welcome, if you get one by all means speak up! You never know when an idea you have might be the one, or even if I can't use an idea of yours for one reason or another, it might still lead me to a good solution!
no prob. always happy to share ideas
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Old February 6th, 2011, 04:14 PM   #44
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@evil_genius: this came up during the production of Specter, and I'll say now exactly what I said then...I'm using older and admittedly lower-res Poser 4 characters here, and there aren't a lot of non-human morphs available (that I've found). Point me in the direction of some morphs that are compatible with Poser 4's hi-res characters and I'll be glad to use them!
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@evil_genius: this came up during the production of Specter, and I'll say now exactly what I said then...I'm using older and admittedly lower-res Poser 4 characters here, and there aren't a lot of non-human morphs available (that I've found). Point me in the direction of some morphs that are compatible with Poser 4's hi-res characters and I'll be glad to use them!
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On this site alone, there are 3 Klingons, a couple Vulcans and an Andorian in the download section. Also some Borg, but I doubt you'd want those. All are in P4 format.
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@evil_genius: I guess I need to look through the Downloads section a little closer. A few characters there that I can use...but since most of the senior staff is already established as human, most of them will have to be background characters.

At least now I know where the Vulcan head and ear morphs I'm using came from!
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Yeah, there's a decent amount of characters here. I have no use for them because I don't use Poser but they'd add some diversity to your movie, even if they are just background characters. Unfortunately, I don't know of any more. I know of some places that have Trek models but most are ships, shuttles and space stations.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 11:36 AM   #49
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For those who were speaking up about the so-called "lost scene" between Prentice ordering Mitchell to salvage the cloaking device, and the scene in Ten Forward when they're already on their way, here's an updated clip for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2xD5g9igIg

This one's thirty minutes long but it includes everything to this point, including a groovy shot of the Fitzgerald actually cloaking.

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Excellent. I really enjoyed watching this ..... I will have another look tomorrow when I can really set and view it.
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Old February 14th, 2011, 06:49 AM   #51
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New clip is up folks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxYIlWlV41E

This is an update of "Scenes 1-10," but now with a bunch of small fixes. At any rate, all the old stuff is gone now, so if you want to see Retribution, this is where you do it
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cool I will have a look asap.
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This is much smoother ....
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Old February 16th, 2011, 07:48 PM   #54
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First half of the next clip is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IbdQejEnnI
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Full version of the clip now available for viewing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0HjwykHP30
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looks good and getting in deep
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Old February 18th, 2011, 12:13 PM   #57
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OK, I got all caught up on everything. The first 30:35 segment looks really good. I like the added scene where they're installing and activating the cloaking device, it really ties things together better than going directly from them talking about installing it to the scene in ten forward.

The latest scene looks great also.
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Another piece is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynkqHrFHNw
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Nice use of the Palpatine Throne Room set. Though, that space station doesn't look quite as grand as the Death Star.

The clip is cool, very dark and ominous.
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Next clip is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BueiNXtRhpE
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